tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post1813250452081325860..comments2023-07-22T15:44:42.859+01:00Comments on More about the song - rambling with Rachel Fox: Monday Poem – a hellish assignmentRachel Foxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-5792343120212294912009-11-01T20:19:35.598+00:002009-11-01T20:19:35.598+00:00Thanks for calling in, Dominic. Especially as it&#...Thanks for calling in, Dominic. Especially as it's you that really set this one going!<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-52316161140621213132009-11-01T01:04:46.806+00:002009-11-01T01:04:46.806+00:00Like your Penderecki inspired writing! Interesting...Like your Penderecki inspired writing! Interesting the way the ideas seem to have just tumbled out.<br /><br />Re the title: I don't know. All I know about the piece is what I hear. Amazing that he thought of the title afterwards because, for me, the title so permeates the piece. Perhaps that's why he came up with the title - perhaps it leapt out at him too. In a way that's more intense than sitting down and trying to write a "threnody for the victims of Hiroshima".<br /><br />The piece *is* typical of his early work. (Another famous one is his St Luke Passion - very "gothic"!). Later on he started writing in a more conventional romantic style much to the disgust of his die-hard avant-garde fans. To be fair, though, I think even his most modernistic music is, at heart, romantic, so those of us who like his earlier stuff should have seen it coming.Dominic Rivronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618013365521035400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-87602892806879711302009-10-27T16:58:30.701+00:002009-10-27T16:58:30.701+00:00Hi Kat
Yes, it's all been a bit disturbing thi...Hi Kat<br />Yes, it's all been a bit disturbing this week.<br /><br />I was reading about the composer this morning (only on wiki-lazy-place) and it said that he only gave the piece the (Hiroshima) name after he had finished it. Somehow I imagined it he had written it with the subject in mind (because that's probably more how I'd work). Kind of changes it a bit...doesn't it? Maybe the wiki-detail isn't quite right though. Maybe Dominic would know...he started all this!<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-41292204642284471572009-10-27T15:52:14.119+00:002009-10-27T15:52:14.119+00:00YIKES!!!
The rape scream is so disturbing. Crossi...YIKES!!!<br /><br />The rape scream is so disturbing. Crossing that line. I often think of that, in small ways, like swearing in church, or something.<br /><br />Man, oh man, this was one wild ride. (Maybe it's a British thing with the bus-brakes.) We don't hear them around here as much, but perhaps New Yorkers would be more inclined. No, that would be taxis honking, wouldn't it.<br /><br />(As you can tell, I'm still on the stream-of-consciousness trip. Help me.)Kat Mortensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16877694888419628533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-25764485736938220372009-10-27T14:34:02.586+00:002009-10-27T14:34:02.586+00:00creepY, I meant.
xcreepY, I meant.<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-12705323869831577902009-10-27T14:33:17.281+00:002009-10-27T14:33:17.281+00:00I can really see them too, Sorlil (the seagulls pl...I can really see them too, Sorlil (the seagulls playing bongos). I think it may be the one from the Disney Little Mermaid that I see most (Scuttle?)...him and some pals...and they're all a bit the worse for a few bottles of cheap cider. It's strangely not frightening. <br /><br />Real seagulls however...up close...I still find them fairly creepu. Put it this way if we play chicken they win every time!<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-21637853054334989332009-10-27T14:18:41.267+00:002009-10-27T14:18:41.267+00:00I'm just loving the sonics of seagulls and bon...I'm just loving the sonics of seagulls and bongos, I may steal it if I can ever think up a poem to fit them both in lolMarion McCreadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04657757253873577465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-35211072908491258012009-10-27T11:04:02.055+00:002009-10-27T11:04:02.055+00:00You could just make me a cd a month or something, ...You could just make me a cd a month or something, Swiss (not just of AT - different things)! Maybe I should subscribe to you. <br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-64928909636325852512009-10-27T10:47:48.528+00:002009-10-27T10:47:48.528+00:00no polygon window on spotify i'm afraid, an om...no polygon window on spotify i'm afraid, an omission i find frankly astonishing. they do have the rather initeresting alarm will sound doing acoustic versions of him tho which is (very) interesting.swisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17924594772578153947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-4799120183004352042009-10-27T09:13:12.099+00:002009-10-27T09:13:12.099+00:00Argent - thanks. I have been working on my images!...Argent - thanks. I have been working on my images!<br /><br />Karen - we're always hearing what a huge success he is over there! I guess that's his publicity machine telling us that... But as I say I'm not against him as a general rule - just one or two of his bridges too far.<br /><br />Swiss - will get the rant off you some time over a tea or a coffee or a pint or two. Look forward to it!<br /><br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-65930030733443255692009-10-26T23:22:59.261+00:002009-10-26T23:22:59.261+00:00okay, first off gervais. i can;t discuss gervais w...okay, first off gervais. i can;t discuss gervais without going off on a rant. if people like that, well that's fine for them. but not me, oh no.<br /><br />as for the aphex twin, go no further than surfing on the sine wave, which he made under his polygon window guise. there are others (the quoth ep for instance)but this should be on spotify or the like - none of these are noisy as such.. or i'll make you a cd<br /><br />even then, it's a bit of its time it has to be said. and here's me now with a house full of instruments. who'd have thought?swisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17924594772578153947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-54809118816358904292009-10-26T22:57:18.523+00:002009-10-26T22:57:18.523+00:00Fortunately, we don't get a lot of Ricky Gerva...Fortunately, we don't get a lot of Ricky Gervais in the States, but I know exactly what you mean.<br /><br />This is the part that resonates with me:<br /><br />"It is worth, I think<br />Learning to see the line<br />Because there is a line<br />And once you've crossed it<br />You are all the things that previously<br />You may have fought against<br /><br />So true.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12003379181294550035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-75664925791828593162009-10-26T21:36:46.035+00:002009-10-26T21:36:46.035+00:00Yikes! How scary and marvellous is this? What a ...Yikes! How scary and marvellous is this? What a brilliant series of images. LOVE IT!Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10532506690426639326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-17787701460167531262009-10-26T21:12:13.819+00:002009-10-26T21:12:13.819+00:00Thanks AL. Buses get into my writing quite regular...Thanks AL. Buses get into my writing quite regularly!<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-13642493069090917502009-10-26T20:47:30.389+00:002009-10-26T20:47:30.389+00:00Gosh that went clean into my root canal. I loved t...Gosh that went clean into my root canal. I loved the first few lines about the brakes -- Hitchcock my favorite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-71022386875864774962009-10-26T19:20:46.867+00:002009-10-26T19:20:46.867+00:00Thanks Jeanne. Very much.
And TFE...yes, we were ...Thanks Jeanne. Very much.<br /><br />And TFE...yes, we were talking about this nasty comedy thing the other week, weren't we? I haven't seen Gervais live - only on TV - but that is plenty. At least on TV there is some distance.<br /><br />I have a particularly low tolerance for rape 'jokes' Frankie Boyle did some very similar stuff when I saw him live last year). I have known too many people whose lives have been ruined for years (if not forever) by rape to ever, ever find it funny in any setting. I know a comic like Gervais would say his joke is not about rape (it is about what is acceptable, blah, blah, blah...) but at the end of it all it is making light of something that is just not light. And you all know me by now....I am a big fan and user of humour...but I don't see humour in this kind of thing. I see nastiness, dismissal of others, a man trying to make himself seem on-the-edge. It's pathetic. Go tell some of the women in Afghanistan how hilarious a rape joke can be. Yes, Ricky...in fact go and entertain the troops, while you're out there. Try really living on the edge. There's no awards show out there.<br /><br />Anyway, back to Hiroshima. Do you know a funny thing...I didn't realise until a day after I'd typed it how weird it was that I'd put Atomic Kitten in this post. I nearly put Sugababes but then thought I'd mentioned them once before and I do try not to be predictable. The Atomic link went completely under my radar.<br /><br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-39864157483877639852009-10-26T18:33:08.667+00:002009-10-26T18:33:08.667+00:00Fex sake Rachel, I'm drunk by this satge but t...Fex sake Rachel, I'm drunk by this satge but there is so much in here.More of the stuff I was hoping for , again you got , or the music got you.This is brilliant but I need to leave al this stuff alone now.Just one point.Comedy is dangerous comedy gets away with murder, or worse. We need to (ironically) stand up -walk out.Gervais, nail on head.Thought it myself, also Tiernan.So many,Too many racist ,misogynistic,twisted sick unhappy fuckers doing comedy.I saw Gervais the other night and his use of huge talent and intelligence to get away withsick prejudice and callousness made me want to vomit.We must stop this trend.Don't go or if you do go speak out, people.This is a new wave and will drown us all.Totalfeckineejithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05352708391465031655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-48735622921678456882009-10-26T18:07:15.639+00:002009-10-26T18:07:15.639+00:00Rachel,
Your interpretation of this piece captur...Rachel, <br /><br />Your interpretation of this piece captures its resonance in your usual poetic manner. Love it! <br />My favorite lines: "No rhythm though/So it can't find a way" illustrate the significance of a pulse in relation to motivation and vision.Dr. Jeanne Irishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277286531162894465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-25250553765447121822009-10-26T17:11:41.807+00:002009-10-26T17:11:41.807+00:00What in particular upsets you about Gervais, Swiss...What in particular upsets you about Gervais, Swiss? For me he has his crappy moments...and they do seem to be occurring more often. Shame really. That 'now I'm famous I can be a wanker' angle has been covered well and truly now. He's in danger of just being a wanker soon.<br /><br />As for Aphex Twin...I've never really listened to any. Did that comment (mentioned in the poem) put me off? No, it put me off the bloke who said it and blokes like him though. I've never been one much for what I suppose we could call experimental music (noises/sounds rather anything recognisable as music to an average listener). I can listen to it sometimes (for a task like this) and I don't hate it (as lots of people seem to) and I used to have a really noisy cd on R & S that I liked (can't remember name of artist) BUT there are always just so many other things that I DO want to listen to that it never gets much of a listen-in. And really singing is my favourite thing...I love listening to beautiful voices (and that word beautiful can stretch to cover quite a lot of vocal sounds).<br /><br />So tell me your favourite Aphex Twin. I'll have a listen if I can.<br /><br />I did read about him that he's a bit of cheeky bugger and likes to put out made-up stories about himself. Maybe that rape thing was one of his stories. Hilarious. Er, not.<br /><br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-77145605318717334332009-10-26T17:00:41.400+00:002009-10-26T17:00:41.400+00:00name me the ways i'd like to stick a pitchfork...name me the ways i'd like to stick a pitchfork into ricky gervais. if ever a colossal wanker needed a pitch forking surely it is he.<br /><br />and that aphex twin bloke. what a tosser. i've never heard this story and would give it no creedence. the aphex twin is well intersting and it's a shame if you've been put off by this idiot.swisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17924594772578153947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-264784177262666602009-10-26T16:09:06.954+00:002009-10-26T16:09:06.954+00:00Thanks NanU. I wasn't consciously trying to do...Thanks NanU. I wasn't consciously trying to do mockery! I suppose that's my default setting...a little bit...<br /><br />And Weaver...continuing a point from a comment at your place (for those who wonder what you're on about!) Why don't we elect peacemakers? Their desire for power is usually weaker than that of their opposites perhaps. Also people get seduced by charisma...and/or they think it's necessary to win over large numbers. And we do elect peacemakers sometimes...just not very often! <br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-53037027672121394902009-10-26T16:04:33.306+00:002009-10-26T16:04:33.306+00:00Very interesting take on the music, Rachel. Like ...Very interesting take on the music, Rachel. Like the vampires have left the fairground but the foghorn is still going. Glad you listened to the music - it isn't an easy piece, particularly when you know its title.<br /><br />I agree about "some" men - there are peacemakers - but why do we never elect them to any kind of power.The Weaver of Grasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947971556343746883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-72582792635482881002009-10-26T15:55:53.132+00:002009-10-26T15:55:53.132+00:00I love the darkness and the mockery of this. The s...I love the darkness and the mockery of this. The staying outside and waiting for the *music* to pass, all the while being swept up in it.<br />Excellent work, Rachel!NanUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11596765792663269178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-17608680721503944882009-10-26T15:41:07.133+00:002009-10-26T15:41:07.133+00:00Thanks Willow. I think the vampires was the last d...Thanks Willow. I think the vampires was the last detail to go in in fact. I knew they should be in there somewhere so I squeezed them in there!<br /><br />I was watching a fantastic BBC drama series not long back called 'Being Human'. It was a modern take on vampires, werewolves and ghosts (one of each sharing a house in Bristol). I think that's partly where the vampires came from.<br />xRachel Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11803852725693518924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1564859019305736550.post-66986416203765201002009-10-26T15:16:26.972+00:002009-10-26T15:16:26.972+00:00Hitchcock's use of music in his films was alwa...Hitchcock's use of music in his films was always so effective. Love that you mention him at the beginning. <br /><br />The line that really jumped out at me was this,<br /><br />"The vampires have left the fairground<br />But the foghorn's still going..."<br /><br />Great stuff.Tess Kincaidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889725786678984293noreply@blogger.com